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Darren Ferguson

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Another 3 and a half years contract. Well done everyone.

https://www.theposh.com/news/2021/novem ... -contract/
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Good news, Fergie is the man.
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Great news and well deserved.
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Darren Ferguson’s Championship Record

2009-10 P16 W2 D5 L9 F19 A28 Pts 11 PPG 0.68 Psn 24
20011-12 P46 W13 D11 L22 F67 A77 Pts 50 PPG 1.1 Psn 18
2012-13 P46 W15 D9 L22 F66 A75 Pts 54 PPG 1.2 Psn 22
2021-22 P17 W4 D3 L10 F17 A32 Pts 15 PPG 0.89 Psn 21

Totals P125 W34 D28 L63 F169 A212 Pts 130 PPG 1.0

Over the last six seasons, 45 points has been enough to secure 21st place .Our manager’s overall record projects to seasonal totals of 46 points.

Our current record most resembles our disastrous 2009-10 campaign, though we have scored fewer goals and conceded more than we did then.

Ferguson’s record when he departed the club in 2009 projected to 32 points; we finished with 34. This season, our record projects to 40 points.

Our current playing record is relegation form; only Derby’s points deductions keep us out of the drop zone: A curious basis on which to reward the manager with a contract extension.

At the end of League One promotion campaigns, we part company with players deemed unlikely to perform well at Championship level (Lee, Whelpdale, Wesolowski, Mason et al).

Former NFL head coach (and two-time Superbowl winner) Bill Parcells opined: ‘You are what your record says you are.’ 
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JohnC wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 01:19 Darren Ferguson’s Championship Record

2009-10 P16 W2 D5 L9 F19 A28 Pts 11 PPG 0.68 Psn 24
20011-12 P46 W13 D11 L22 F67 A77 Pts 50 PPG 1.1 Psn 18
2012-13 P46 W15 D9 L22 F66 A75 Pts 54 PPG 1.2 Psn 22
2021-22 P17 W4 D3 L10 F17 A32 Pts 15 PPG 0.89 Psn 21

Totals P125 W34 D28 L63 F169 A212 Pts 130 PPG 1.0

Over the last six seasons, 45 points has been enough to secure 21st place .Our manager’s overall record projects to seasonal totals of 46 points.

Our current record most resembles our disastrous 2009-10 campaign, though we have scored fewer goals and conceded more than we did then.

Ferguson’s record when he departed the club in 2009 projected to 32 points; we finished with 34. This season, our record projects to 40 points.

Our current playing record is relegation form; only Derby’s points deductions keep us out of the drop zone: A curious basis on which to reward the manager with a contract extension.

At the end of League One promotion campaigns, we part company with players deemed unlikely to perform well at Championship level (Lee, Whelpdale, Wesolowski, Mason et al).

Former NFL head coach (and two-time Superbowl winner) Bill Parcells opined: ‘You are what your record says you are.’ 

For a club the size of Posh (in terms of average attendance and revenue), 125 games games (and counting) in the Championship over 12 years is an achievement in itself.
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I wish I could be enthusiastic in regard to his extended contract.
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Steamy Nin wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 09:45
JohnC wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 01:19 Darren Ferguson’s Championship Record

2009-10 P16 W2 D5 L9 F19 A28 Pts 11 PPG 0.68 Psn 24
20011-12 P46 W13 D11 L22 F67 A77 Pts 50 PPG 1.1 Psn 18
2012-13 P46 W15 D9 L22 F66 A75 Pts 54 PPG 1.2 Psn 22
2021-22 P17 W4 D3 L10 F17 A32 Pts 15 PPG 0.89 Psn 21

Totals P125 W34 D28 L63 F169 A212 Pts 130 PPG 1.0

Over the last six seasons, 45 points has been enough to secure 21st place .Our manager’s overall record projects to seasonal totals of 46 points.

Our current record most resembles our disastrous 2009-10 campaign, though we have scored fewer goals and conceded more than we did then.

Ferguson’s record when he departed the club in 2009 projected to 32 points; we finished with 34. This season, our record projects to 40 points.

Our current playing record is relegation form; only Derby’s points deductions keep us out of the drop zone: A curious basis on which to reward the manager with a contract extension.

At the end of League One promotion campaigns, we part company with players deemed unlikely to perform well at Championship level (Lee, Whelpdale, Wesolowski, Mason et al).

Former NFL head coach (and two-time Superbowl winner) Bill Parcells opined: ‘You are what your record says you are.’ 

For a club the size of Posh (in terms of average attendance and revenue), 125 games games (and counting) in the Championship over 12 years is an achievement in itself.
Size of club is, of course, a contributory – but not determining – factor in success. Currently Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich, Sunderland and Portsmouth are a division below us. I don’t hear Bournemouth referred to very often as a ‘big’ club, but they’ve done all right over the past few years. I’m more interested in why Burton Albion were able to last two seasons in the Championship not so long ago; why Rotherham (currently third in L1) have spent five of the last seven seasons in the Championship; and why Millwall have finished 11th, 8th, 21st and 8th since getting promoted to the Championship. They’re currently 9th (level on points with Blackpool), having scored the same number of goals as we have. Millwall have – seemingly effortlessly --turned themselves into a top-half of the Championship club.

With ‘best deal-maker outside the Premier League’ weaving his magic on our behalf, I’d expect that we could match the achievements of Millwall and Rotherham.
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JohnC wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 21:41
Steamy Nin wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 09:45
JohnC wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 01:19 Darren Ferguson’s Championship Record

2009-10 P16 W2 D5 L9 F19 A28 Pts 11 PPG 0.68 Psn 24
20011-12 P46 W13 D11 L22 F67 A77 Pts 50 PPG 1.1 Psn 18
2012-13 P46 W15 D9 L22 F66 A75 Pts 54 PPG 1.2 Psn 22
2021-22 P17 W4 D3 L10 F17 A32 Pts 15 PPG 0.89 Psn 21

Totals P125 W34 D28 L63 F169 A212 Pts 130 PPG 1.0

Over the last six seasons, 45 points has been enough to secure 21st place .Our manager’s overall record projects to seasonal totals of 46 points.

Our current record most resembles our disastrous 2009-10 campaign, though we have scored fewer goals and conceded more than we did then.

Ferguson’s record when he departed the club in 2009 projected to 32 points; we finished with 34. This season, our record projects to 40 points.

Our current playing record is relegation form; only Derby’s points deductions keep us out of the drop zone: A curious basis on which to reward the manager with a contract extension.

At the end of League One promotion campaigns, we part company with players deemed unlikely to perform well at Championship level (Lee, Whelpdale, Wesolowski, Mason et al).

Former NFL head coach (and two-time Superbowl winner) Bill Parcells opined: ‘You are what your record says you are.’ 

For a club the size of Posh (in terms of average attendance and revenue), 125 games games (and counting) in the Championship over 12 years is an achievement in itself.
Size of club is, of course, a contributory – but not determining – factor in success. Currently Sheffield Wednesday, Ipswich, Sunderland and Portsmouth are a division below us. I don’t hear Bournemouth referred to very often as a ‘big’ club, but they’ve done all right over the past few years. I’m more interested in why Burton Albion were able to last two seasons in the Championship not so long ago; why Rotherham (currently third in L1) have spent five of the last seven seasons in the Championship; and why Millwall have finished 11th, 8th, 21st and 8th since getting promoted to the Championship. They’re currently 9th (level on points with Blackpool), having scored the same number of goals as we have. Millwall have – seemingly effortlessly --turned themselves into a top-half of the Championship club.

With ‘best deal-maker outside the Premier League’ weaving his magic on our behalf, I’d expect that we could match the achievements of Millwall and Rotherham.
Certainly agree with you there, we have a catchment area that has a population that should see us consolidate a place in the Championship. We are bigger than places like Preston, Blackburn, Huddersfield, Barnsley and Blackpool, but I think Fergie has done everything he can do to increase the fan base.
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PoshCynic wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 17:22 I wish I could be enthusiastic in regard to his extended contract.
Non-fans are unlikely to be enthusiastic about his contract - or maybe it is only you?
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ashman wrote: 18 Nov 2021, 07:55
PoshCynic wrote: 17 Nov 2021, 17:22 I wish I could be enthusiastic in regard to his extended contract.
Non-fans are unlikely to be enthusiastic about his contract - or maybe it is only you?
I imagine that -- almost by definition -- 'non-fans' will have no interest in his contract.

Speaking as a long-time season-ticket holding fan, I am not enthusiastic about the timing of this contract.

At the recent fans' forum, the chairman was quoted as saying:
'if the unthinkable happens and we do go down, who better to get us back up than the man who has won promotion from League One multiple times?'

An alternative question might be:
'Who is more likely to get us relegated from the Championship than the man who, three times out of four, has taken us to the one-third stage of the campaign in relegation form/position?' (N.B. the current Derby points deduction).

As we know, the first two times we progressed sixteen games into the season in the relegation zone, we...got relegated.

At present in the Championship, only Tony Mowbray at Blackburn and Mark Robins at Coventry have been in situ longer than Darren Ferguson.
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