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JohnC
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I found some of the Chairman’s comments (as reported recently in the PET) questionable….

'A lot of what we did at Middlesbrough was good,” MacAnthony said. “We had looked at data in the international break and realised we need to get into the opposition box more and we got in there 14 times which is five times more than we normally manage. The shape (3-4-2-1) looked good and everyone looked like they knew their jobs.'

Is he suggesting that we normally manage to get into the opposition box three times in a game, or does he just mean we normally enter the opposition box nine times?

'But we had 11 chances to shoot and didn’t take them. We didn’t have a single shot on goal and that’s not Peterborough United. If you don’t shoot you won’t score, but players seemed to want to pass and let someone else have the responsibility. We tried to walk the ball in, but we are not Real Madrid. One of those shooting chances could well have gone in or you get a lucky ricochet or something.
“That’s down to a lack of confidence and belief and it needs to change. Our shot conversion rate is actually the best in the league. We score from 30% of the shots we take, but we don’t shoot enough.
It’s not a lack of strikers. We had Siriki Dembele, Sammie Szmodics and Jorge Grant on the pitch who scored 50 goals between then(sic) last season. I know it was in League One, but still, not one shot between them?'
We need to play to try and win, not to play to try and not lose. If you fall short in the first instance than(sic) so be it, but if you fall short trying not to lose than(sic) it’s often a disaster.'

The goalless draw with Bournemouth was about as organised, disciplined and focused as we’ve looked all season, and we ended up with something to show for it. I felt better leaving the ground after that game than I did after the Bristol City encounter.

“Obviously we were denied a clear penalty at Boro, but there was still plenty of time to win the game, but 15 minutes from time we made substitutions that didn’t seem likely to help us win. Siriki Dembele wasn’t great, but he’s a threat.
“In the manager’s mind - and I’m not trying to dig him out here as his job is not under threat after 12 games - he probably thought that was going to help us win. We had a heated discussion about things after the match, but I love my manager and my players, it’s just we are way below our standards right now.
We’ve had no luck, but we need take the brakes off and go for it. If we lose 5-3 then so be it.”

Yes, we have had luck. We opened at home against troubled Derby, and we’ve played Preston, Reading, Sheffield United, Middlesbrough and Hull at very opportune times. We might have had a penalty against Middlesbrough, but we were lucky to get one at Sheffield United. Hull missed a penalty and hit the frame of the goal twice. We have had injuries to deal with, but so have most of our opponents; Middlesbrough’s resources were certainly stretched thin against us. I can't think of a categorical 'we wuz robbed' moment so far this season.
Taking the brakes off’ suggests that we have a known capacity to perform better at this level. Only Beevers and JCH have significant prior Championship experience.
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..... and your point is? :shock:
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JohnC wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 19:42 I found some of the Chairman’s comments (as reported recently in the PET) questionable….

'A lot of what we did at Middlesbrough was good,” MacAnthony said. “We had looked at data in the international break and realised we need to get into the opposition box more and we got in there 14 times which is five times more than we normally manage. The shape (3-4-2-1) looked good and everyone looked like they knew their jobs.'

Is he suggesting that we normally manage to get into the opposition box three times in a game, or does he just mean we normally enter the opposition box nine times?

'But we had 11 chances to shoot and didn’t take them. We didn’t have a single shot on goal and that’s not Peterborough United. If you don’t shoot you won’t score, but players seemed to want to pass and let someone else have the responsibility. We tried to walk the ball in, but we are not Real Madrid. One of those shooting chances could well have gone in or you get a lucky ricochet or something.
“That’s down to a lack of confidence and belief and it needs to change. Our shot conversion rate is actually the best in the league. We score from 30% of the shots we take, but we don’t shoot enough.
It’s not a lack of strikers. We had Siriki Dembele, Sammie Szmodics and Jorge Grant on the pitch who scored 50 goals between then(sic) last season. I know it was in League One, but still, not one shot between them?'
We need to play to try and win, not to play to try and not lose. If you fall short in the first instance than(sic) so be it, but if you fall short trying not to lose than(sic) it’s often a disaster.'

The goalless draw with Bournemouth was about as organised, disciplined and focused as we’ve looked all season, and we ended up with something to show for it. I felt better leaving the ground after that game than I did after the Bristol City encounter.

“Obviously we were denied a clear penalty at Boro, but there was still plenty of time to win the game, but 15 minutes from time we made substitutions that didn’t seem likely to help us win. Siriki Dembele wasn’t great, but he’s a threat.
“In the manager’s mind - and I’m not trying to dig him out here as his job is not under threat after 12 games - he probably thought that was going to help us win. We had a heated discussion about things after the match, but I love my manager and my players, it’s just we are way below our standards right now.
We’ve had no luck, but we need take the brakes off and go for it. If we lose 5-3 then so be it.”

Yes, we have had luck. We opened at home against troubled Derby, and we’ve played Preston, Reading, Sheffield United, Middlesbrough and Hull at very opportune times. We might have had a penalty against Middlesbrough, but we were lucky to get one at Sheffield United. Hull missed a penalty and hit the frame of the goal twice. We have had injuries to deal with, but so have most of our opponents; Middlesbrough’s resources were certainly stretched thin against us. I can't think of a categorical 'we wuz robbed' moment so far this season.
Taking the brakes off’ suggests that we have a known capacity to perform better at this level. Only Beevers and JCH have significant prior Championship experience.
I thought it was a desperate load of bollox to be honest....lies and damned lies....he sounds more like his hero everyday....as Warnock said, Middlesboro could have had a penalty in the first half and Edwards could/should have seen red...we didn't "control" anything and have not done so in any game this season (maybe B'Ham)

Better off for the chairman to say "I got some things wrong and we are paying for it but, we are still in there fighting and it's far from over"....however, the Trump playbook is to distract people from your weaknesses and never, under no circumstances, ever, admit you were wrong...it's a misplaced sense of manliness and bravado...
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ashman wrote: 22 Oct 2021, 08:58 ..... and your point is? :shock:
My points (made clearly enough in my italicised comments, I thought) are that the chairman's assessments are:

1. demonstrably wrong, as regards 'having no luck';

2. arguably wrong about playing not to lose: was the Bournemouth performance a betrayal of our principles?

3. confused/confusing with regard to 'getting into the opposition box'; what exactly does that mean? Dribbling into the box? Passing the ball into the box, regardless as to whether or not the pass is accurate? Does a corner/free kick/throw in played into the box (and gathered by the goalkeeper) count?
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