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tonyp wrote: 09 May 2021, 08:16 I don't think we should aim for 4th from bottom.
I think we should aim for mid table at least.
Agreed. Whenever you aim for something, you can guarantee that you will never quite get it spot on. One or two either way and you could be in trouble. Mid table gives you that degree of miscalculation!
Anyway why shouldn't we be able to finish above a bunch of the following?
Huddersfield, Bristol City, Coventry, Luton, Millwall, Preston N. E, and probably even Nottingham Forest and Derby?
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ashman wrote: 09 May 2021, 09:42
tonyp wrote: 09 May 2021, 08:16 I don't think we should aim for 4th from bottom.
I think we should aim for mid table at least.
Agreed. Whenever you aim for something, you can guarantee that you will never quite get it spot on. One or two either way and you could be in trouble. Mid table gives you that degree of miscalculation!
Anyway why shouldn't we be able to finish above a bunch of the following?
Huddersfield, Bristol City, Coventry, Luton, Millwall, Preston N. E, and probably even Nottingham Forest and Derby?
All depends on recruitment over the next couple of months....4th from bottom would suit me nicely and, I'd take it now if offered...it's a tough step up...ask Wycombe, Rovrum....
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stumpy wrote: 11 May 2021, 21:22
ashman wrote: 09 May 2021, 09:42
tonyp wrote: 09 May 2021, 08:16 I don't think we should aim for 4th from bottom.
I think we should aim for mid table at least.
Agreed. Whenever you aim for something, you can guarantee that you will never quite get it spot on. One or two either way and you could be in trouble. Mid table gives you that degree of miscalculation!
Anyway why shouldn't we be able to finish above a bunch of the following?
Huddersfield, Bristol City, Coventry, Luton, Millwall, Preston N. E, and probably even Nottingham Forest and Derby?
All depends on recruitment over the next couple of months....4th from bottom would suit me nicely and, I'd take it now if offered...it's a tough step up...ask Wycombe, Rovrum....
Wycombe finished two points from safety. Rotherham were two minutes away. Admittedly, the Sheffield Wednesday points deduction helped both of them to clamber above the Owls.
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JohnC wrote: 11 May 2021, 22:36
stumpy wrote: 11 May 2021, 21:22
ashman wrote: 09 May 2021, 09:42
Agreed. Whenever you aim for something, you can guarantee that you will never quite get it spot on. One or two either way and you could be in trouble. Mid table gives you that degree of miscalculation!
Anyway why shouldn't we be able to finish above a bunch of the following?
Huddersfield, Bristol City, Coventry, Luton, Millwall, Preston N. E, and probably even Nottingham Forest and Derby?
All depends on recruitment over the next couple of months....4th from bottom would suit me nicely and, I'd take it now if offered...it's a tough step up...ask Wycombe, Rovrum....
Wycombe finished two points from safety. Rotherham were two minutes away. Admittedly, the Sheffield Wednesday points deduction helped both of them to clamber above the Owls.
But, both coming straight back down.....
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stumpy wrote: 12 May 2021, 04:54
JohnC wrote: 11 May 2021, 22:36
stumpy wrote: 11 May 2021, 21:22

All depends on recruitment over the next couple of months....4th from bottom would suit me nicely and, I'd take it now if offered...it's a tough step up...ask Wycombe, Rovrum....
Wycombe finished two points from safety. Rotherham were two minutes away. Admittedly, the Sheffield Wednesday points deduction helped both of them to clamber above the Owls.
But, both coming straight back down.....
Wycombe 43 pts, Rotherham 42 pts. Sheffield Wednesday 41 pts. compare that to the 54 pts. Posh accumulated last time they were in the Championship!
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Listening to Fergie post match on Sunday, he won’t hold back from playing the youngsters next season and I expect Edwards, Burrows & RJJ to be very much involved from the off. So we need a couple of good experienced players at Championship level (or above) to be playing alongside them. With Dembele, Szmodics, Ward, Kent, Taylor and a top level loanee (someone like Harry Wilson), this will be a good enough side to stay up.

If we achieve that objective, the experience these kids will get will enable us to kick on big time the following season and establish ourselves as a Championship team for seasons to come. It wasn’t that long ago that the likes of Reading, Swansea, Brentford and Bournemouth were grovelling around in the lower reaches of the league, we can match what they have done and more.
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ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:08 Interesting article about Fergie.

https://the72.co.uk/235024/son-of-legen ... se-season/
A good read and this article references the likes of Hull City, Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich Town as "big hitters". Most of these clubs have had their day, along with the likes of Huddersfield, Bolton, Blackburn, Coventry, Stoke, Preston, Luton and others. Peterborough is a similar in terms of population to all of them (bigger than most) and Peterborough has the biggest catchment area in the country, with not another league club within a 35 mile radius. With exciting youngsters coming through, a new stadium due and Fergie at the helm, I see very exciting times ahead, that will allow us to draw in new fans and make Posh a far bigger club than any of those mentioned above.
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Steamy Nin wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:41
ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:08 Interesting article about Fergie.

https://the72.co.uk/235024/son-of-legen ... se-season/
A good read and this article references the likes of Hull City, Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich Town as "big hitters". Most of these clubs have had their day, along with the likes of Huddersfield, Bolton, Blackburn, Coventry, Stoke, Preston, Luton and others. Peterborough is a similar in terms of population to all of them (bigger than most) and Peterborough has the biggest catchment area in the country, with not another league club within a 35 mile radius. With exciting youngsters coming through, a new stadium due and Fergie at the helm, I see very exciting times ahead, that will allow us to draw in new fans and make Posh a far bigger club than any of those mentioned above.
Wow, now that really is optimistic! :comeon:
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ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 11:27
Steamy Nin wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:41
ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 10:08 Interesting article about Fergie.

https://the72.co.uk/235024/son-of-legen ... se-season/
A good read and this article references the likes of Hull City, Sunderland, Portsmouth and Ipswich Town as "big hitters". Most of these clubs have had their day, along with the likes of Huddersfield, Bolton, Blackburn, Coventry, Stoke, Preston, Luton and others. Peterborough is a similar in terms of population to all of them (bigger than most) and Peterborough has the biggest catchment area in the country, with not another league club within a 35 mile radius. With exciting youngsters coming through, a new stadium due and Fergie at the helm, I see very exciting times ahead, that will allow us to draw in new fans and make Posh a far bigger club than any of those mentioned above.
Wow, now that really is optimistic! :comeon:
I can't see any reason why we can't achieve what Brighton have done. 10 years ago they were still at the Withdean stadium and in League one along with Posh. Then they moved to a brand new stadium and everything took off for them.
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Steamy Nin wrote: 12 May 2021, 14:24 I can't see any reason why we can't achieve what Brighton have done. 10 years ago they were still at the Withdean stadium and in League one along with Posh. Then they moved to a brand new stadium and everything took off for them.
.... and to be fair to them it is probably the only 'out of town' stadium that has been a success!
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Coventry when they played there, does anybody know where they are playing next season?
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bristleposh wrote: 12 May 2021, 18:49 Coventry when they played there, does anybody know where they are playing next season?
A t.v.football prog.last week stated .....back to their original stadium, with a new name.
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ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 17:15
Steamy Nin wrote: 12 May 2021, 14:24 I can't see any reason why we can't achieve what Brighton have done. 10 years ago they were still at the Withdean stadium and in League one along with Posh. Then they moved to a brand new stadium and everything took off for them.
.... and to be fair to them it is probably the only 'out of town' stadium that has been a success!
And Reading as well, 3 seasons in the Premier League since in opened in 1998.

I agree with steamin that the new modern stadium is vital to grow the club, revenue streams and fan base. Given that 2 stands in the stadium are fairly new and modern, can't we just develop the other 2 and stay put?
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HantsPosh wrote: 13 May 2021, 11:42
ashman wrote: 12 May 2021, 17:15
Steamy Nin wrote: 12 May 2021, 14:24 I can't see any reason why we can't achieve what Brighton have done. 10 years ago they were still at the Withdean stadium and in League one along with Posh. Then they moved to a brand new stadium and everything took off for them.
.... and to be fair to them it is probably the only 'out of town' stadium that has been a success!
And Reading as well, 3 seasons in the Premier League since in opened in 1998.

I agree with steamin that the new modern stadium is vital to grow the club, revenue streams and fan base. Given that 2 stands in the stadium are fairly new and modern, can't we just develop the other 2 and stay put?
You are obviously not up to date with developments. The cost of developing the rest of the current ground is prohibitive. In addition the main stand and London Road end is riddled with asbestos. The South Stand (Family Stand, Glebe whatever you call it) needs a tremendous amount of maintenance. There is no room for any parking and as for developing any further use of the place (concerts etc) it is very limited.
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