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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 14 Apr 2019, 08:29

bristleposh wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 18:20
It is pointless ever voting again
:stupid:
Admittedly from a distance.
But what would be the point?
There would presumably still be all of the arguments in Parliament.
You've already had one referendum. Why not get on with it and leave?
And I can't see what racism has to do with it.
It seems to me that people voted to stay or to leave.
They weren't asked to give reasons.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 14 Apr 2019, 08:33

tonyp wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 08:29
bristleposh wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 18:20
It is pointless ever voting again
:stupid:
Admittedly from a distance.
But what would be the point?
There would presumably still be all of the arguments in Parliament.
You've already had one referendum. Why not get on with it and leave?
And I can't see what racism has to do with it.
It seems to me that people voted to stay or to leave.
They weren't asked to give reasons.
is the correct answer
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by ashman » 14 Apr 2019, 08:34

tonyp wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 08:29
bristleposh wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 18:20
It is pointless ever voting again
:stupid:
Admittedly from a distance.
But what would be the point?
There would presumably still be all of the arguments in Parliament.
You've already had one referendum. Why not get on with it and leave?
And I can't see what racism has to do with it.
It seems to me that people voted to stay or to leave.
They weren't asked to give reasons.
.... and we weren't given any reasons to think that Brexit would benefit the country other than a few lies!
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 14 Apr 2019, 08:38

trevormans wrote:
13 Apr 2019, 19:52

Your own racism has been previously accepted and admitted by yourself , I no longer doubt it
Racism is the manifestation of stupidity
And ignorance
I admit to being stupid and ignorant, the racism comment I don't think I am guity of. However I do find it strange that two black rugby players are being accused of homophobia, you'd think they'd know better than most the hurt intolerance brings.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 14 Apr 2019, 08:42

ashman wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 08:34
we weren't given any reasons to think that Brexit would benefit the country other than a few lies!
I have yet to see a voting paper where they give reasons for voting one way or another.
I presume they ran adverts on the TV (for example) from which people could make their decisions.
Maybe some voters weren't smart enough to work out which way to vote. I don't know.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 14 Apr 2019, 11:11

When some time ago bristle posted that the abolition of slavery was a mistake then it was generally agreed that it was ignorant stupid and racist
Is such a view is not racist then I am not clear what is


On a separate point in our democracy you cannot advertise politics on television


The reality is that many were misled by the untruths and by the lies and sound bites and the actual illegality of the campaign


That is no genuine basis for democracy

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 14 Apr 2019, 11:33

trevormans wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 11:11
On a separate point in our democracy you cannot advertise politics on television
You obviously have a different democracy to the one in Australia. We have a General Election coming up and the TV screens are saturated with political advertising including "party political broadcasts".
I, and most people I know, wish they weren't.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 14 Apr 2019, 12:05

We have party political broadcasts
They are not adverts

They are monitored and strictly limited and rationed

USA have adverts
Their adverts may easily be ten times a day in the same channel and the only limit is the size of the bankroll

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 14 Apr 2019, 18:06

trevormans wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 11:11
When some time ago bristle posted that the abolition of slavery was a mistake then it was generally agreed that it was ignorant stupid and racist
Is such a view is not racist then I am not clear what is
As I have said elsewhere you can't say anything in this politically correct society without it offending someone. It wasn't a serious comment, it was perceived to be racist only because of its flippancy. To be honest I can't even remember the context but I have no feelings against anyone whether black, white, English, Foreign, Gay or straight. There are enough White English a*holes in this country for me to be ante without any need for me to worry about groups I rarely have any interface with. If that is racist then so be it.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 14 Apr 2019, 21:55

trevormans wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 12:05
We have party political broadcasts
They are not adverts
:lol:
They don't encourage the viewer to vote for one party?
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 14 Apr 2019, 22:24

Of course anybody appearing on television would be seeking to persuade you to vote for their side

Your point was that your television is saturated ad nauseam with adverts and ppbs
In the U.K. Paid adverts are not allowed for political purposes

Party political broadcasts are allowed on a strictly limited and controlled basis

I would never see them as part of an advertising campaign
They are there to persuade orvto give their point of view

But they are not repeated again and again as you intimated

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by PoshCynic » 15 Apr 2019, 17:19

trevormans wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 22:24

Party political broadcasts are allowed on a strictly limited and controlled basis
Still far too many of them for my liking. These days, I switch the TV off - for all party broadcasts.

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 15 Apr 2019, 22:24

trevormans wrote:
14 Apr 2019, 22:24
Party political broadcasts are allowed on a strictly limited and controlled basis
I would never see them as part of an advertising campaign
They are there to persuade orvto give their point of view
That is advertising whether you like it or not.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 16 Apr 2019, 15:50

if you say so

then your view is as valid as any other

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by tonyp » 17 Apr 2019, 10:10

trevormans wrote:
16 Apr 2019, 15:50
if you say so

then your view is as valid as any other
Thanks trevormans. Yours too.
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