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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 21 Dec 2017, 19:32

The problem I have with Corbyn is that like ed millibars he has never put forward a coherent and cogent set of policies which stand up to serious scrutiny

Moreover Corbyn has been an utter disaster with never having given a proper lead on the EU

Mrs maybe however is even worse as she has had all the cards and failed miserably to win a single trick

We have the weakest government ever matched by the most ineffective opposition

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 21 Dec 2017, 19:49

trevormans wrote:
21 Dec 2017, 19:32
The problem I have with Corbyn is that like ed millibars he has never put forward a coherent and cogent set of policies which stand up to serious scrutiny

Moreover Corbyn has been an utter disaster with never having given a proper lead on the EU

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Re: brexit

Post by john316z » 22 Dec 2017, 16:14

Corbyn did have the only set of policies costed out of all the parties. The downside was that those policies would have had most people to some or more extent worse off as a result. I didn't vote for him in the end because of the leeches in his shadow government. Their position on Europe is poor your right on that. None of the other party policies stood up to proper costing and now we have the DUP costing us as taxpayers more. Being in Huntingdon I'd love to have voted for the Labour candidate as he is a top man but that meant a vote for the leeches, despite JDog being the alternative

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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 26 Dec 2017, 10:59

the further problems included that though mcdonnell claimed it was fully costed , the costings were never fully stress tested by seriously neutral analysts

further, whenever spokesman were asked about the figures relating to their own departments dneither abbott or mcdonnell , nor indeed the blessed corbyn could not quantify the figures

whilst other serious spokesmen within labour were overstating the benefits (eg "we will write of all student debt") which influenced many people but was not actually in the manifesto



mrs may however avoided all discussion, thought she was strong and stable , asked for a mandate on her position on brexit , and failed to get it

we have a very weak government, we have an even weaker, utterly uncohesive opposition ,, yet we are still persisting with the most catastrophic change this country has experienced since the 1940

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 26 Dec 2017, 12:46

trevormans wrote:
26 Dec 2017, 10:59
the further problems included that though mcdonnell claimed it was fully costed , the costings were never fully stress tested by seriously neutral analysts

further, whenever spokesman were asked about the figures relating to their own departments dneither abbott or mcdonnell , nor indeed the blessed corbyn could not quantify the figures

whilst other serious spokesmen within labour were overstating the benefits (eg "we will write of all student debt") which influenced many people but was not actually in the manifesto



mrs may however avoided all discussion, thought she was strong and stable , asked for a mandate on her position on brexit , and failed to get it

we have a very weak government, we have an even weaker, utterly uncohesive opposition ,, yet we are still persisting with the most catastrophic change this country has experienced since the 1940
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Re: brexit

Post by White G » 26 Feb 2018, 19:51

The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.

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Re: brexit

Post by bristleposh » 26 Feb 2018, 21:57

White G wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 19:51
The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.
Still talking your left wing BS, is it any wonder people despair of the party of the left who want to go against what the majority of their constituents voted for. You talk about the abyss that is exactly where comrade Corbyn would take us
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Re: brexit

Post by DaveLister » 26 Feb 2018, 22:56

bristleposh wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 21:57
White G wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 19:51
The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.
Still talking your left wing BS, is it any wonder people despair of the party of the left who want to go against what the majority of their constituents voted for. You talk about the abyss that is exactly where comrade Corbyn would take us
We need a Corbyn-o-meter, Nick
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Re: brexit

Post by bristleposh » 26 Feb 2018, 23:05

DaveLister wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 22:56
bristleposh wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 21:57
White G wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 19:51
The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.
Still talking your left wing BS, is it any wonder people despair of the party of the left who want to go against what the majority of their constituents voted for. You talk about the abyss that is exactly where comrade Corbyn would take us
We need a Corbyn-o-meter, Nick
No need it wouldn't get off the zero
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Re: brexit

Post by White G » 27 Feb 2018, 08:15

bristleposh wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 21:57
White G wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 19:51
The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.
Still talking your left wing BS, is it any wonder people despair of the party of the left who want to go against what the majority of their constituents voted for. You talk about the abyss that is exactly where comrade Corbyn would take us
What part was wrong there? Everyone knows Camerontook that gamble just to win the election. That's why he quit in the end! We're not talking about Corbyn here either, shows there's nothing to come back with as you know the Tories are leading us to disaster!

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Re: brexit

Post by White G » 27 Feb 2018, 08:15

White G wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 08:15
bristleposh wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 21:57
White G wrote:
26 Feb 2018, 19:51
The Tories are taking us into the abyss! All because Cameron wanted to win the UKIP vote to keep his job.
Still talking your left wing BS, is it any wonder people despair of the party of the left who want to go against what the majority of their constituents voted for. You talk about the abyss that is exactly where comrade Corbyn would take us
What part was wrong there? Everyone knows Cameron took that gamble just to win the election. That's why he quit in the end! We're not talking about Corbyn here either, shows there's nothing to come back with as you know the Tories are leading us to disaster!

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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 27 Feb 2018, 19:59

The biggest single problem we have is that the tories are prepared to sacrifice the prosperity of this country to avoid a big split in their party.

At every point they have sought to deny Parliament the right to debate and make decisions. We have a representative democracy , but they talk of taking back control to our sovereign parliament , yet deny it decision making.


They actually see the day of Brexit (march next year) as an end in itself, it is not: it is a profoundly big leap downwards

The Labour party have elected as leader someone who, though he may be fully sincere, cannot think the big picture and who is the single biggest reason why Brexit will happen. His deputy McDonnell is a dangerous incompetent.

Meanwhile the rabid and extremist brexiteers do not give a tinkers cuss for how the country will fare in the next thirty years, as long as they and theirs are all right. Nothing they have said points to a good reason why we as a country should prosper. There is no evidence that we can prosper. Just pie in the sky wishful thinking. They care even less about anybody outside the south east , and those of us in Cheshire and up north will be left to pick up the crumbs. The Welsh hill farmers will be decimated,the Scots will be ignored and allowed to rot, manufacturing industry will continue to collapse, the NHS is in the brown and we are about to discourage nurses from overseas, but the single biggest loss which really dwarfs all things, will be if the peace process in Ulster is put in serious jeopardy. This is so serious , and yet the weak and instable Theresa is in hock to the mental deficient bigots of the DUP who care nothing about anything but their small mindedness and hatred of sodomy , papists and abortion, yet they demand to be treated like the rest of the UK. It is insane beyond measure

Not one of the arrogant bar stewards ever ever gave a moments thought to Northern Ireland, not when they could push forward their own small minded petty and personal ambition. Gove and Johnson should be kicked rectally

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 27 Feb 2018, 20:05

trevormans wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 19:59
The biggest single problem we have is that the tories are prepared to sacrifice the prosperity of this country to avoid a big split in their party.

At every point they have sought to deny Parliament the right to debate and make decisions. We have a representative democracy , but they talk of taking back control to our sovereign parliament , yet deny it decision making.


They actually see the day of Brexit (march next year) as an end in itself, it is not: it is a profoundly big leap downwards

The Labour party have elected as leader someone who, though he may be fully sincere, cannot think the big picture and who is the single biggest reason why Brexit will happen. His deputy McDonnell is a dangerous incompetent.



Meanwhile the rabid and extremist brexiteers do not give a tinkers cuss for how the country will fare in the next thirty years, as long as they and theirs are all right. Nothing they have said points to a good reason why we as a country should prosper. There is no evidence that we can prosper. Just pie in the sky wishful thinking. They care even less about anybody outside the south east , and those of us in Cheshire and up north will be left to pick up the crumbs. The Welsh hill farmers will be decimated,the Scots will be ignored and allowed to rot, manufacturing industry will continue to collapse, the NHS is in the brown and we are about to discourage nurses from overseas, but the single biggest loss which really dwarfs all things, will be if the peace process in Ulster is put in serious jeopardy. This is so serious , and yet the weak and instable Theresa is in hock to the mental deficient bigots of the DUP who care nothing about anything but their small mindedness and hatred of sodomy , papists and abortion, yet they demand to be treated like the rest of the UK. It is insane beyond measure

Not one of the arrogant bar stewards ever ever gave a moments thought to Northern Ireland, not when they could push forward their own small minded petty and personal ambition. Gove and Johnson should be kicked rectally
Unfortunately, I agree with you

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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 27 Feb 2018, 22:26

I think of myself as the Cheshire Posh!

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 27 Feb 2018, 22:56

trevormans wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 22:26
I think of myself as the Cheshire Posh!
one of a few :clap:
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