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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 08 Dec 2017, 19:07

wait now for the Brexiteer narrative of betrayal that will start very soon from UKIP and will then expand to the rabid brexiteering Tories whose line will be " this is a betrayal" "this is not what 17.8 millions voted for "



no. most of them did not realise what an economic disaster it will become yet we are all (all 68 millions of us) still having to put up with it
it will not stop at economics . it will be a lot broader and people will forget the benefits we had until it is too late

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Re: brexit

Post by DoubleRay » 08 Dec 2017, 19:10

It's like divorcing your wife and giving her £40billion and then demanding you still want sex.

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Re: brexit

Post by bristleposh » 08 Dec 2017, 19:41

DoubleRay wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 19:10
then demanding you still want sex.
What is that when it's at home
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Re: brexit

Post by Brianposh » 08 Dec 2017, 19:57

stuie wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 18:13
DoubleRay wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 16:46
Some people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Especially the guy who cemented a microwave oven to his head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-42271150
:stupid: however was reminded the other day, that when younger, I said people should take an exam before voting etc etc

probably not the best way forward for democracy
Would not work as the Labour voters would reduce to a very small number. :lol: :lol:
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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 08 Dec 2017, 20:21

Brianposh wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 19:57
stuie wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 18:13
DoubleRay wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 16:46
Some people shouldn't be allowed to vote. Especially the guy who cemented a microwave oven to his head.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-42271150
:stupid: however was reminded the other day, that when younger, I said people should take an exam before voting etc etc

probably not the best way forward for democracy
Would not work as the Labour voters would reduce to a very small number. :lol: :lol:
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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 08 Dec 2017, 20:45

DoubleRay wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 19:10
It's like divorcing your wife and giving her £40billion and then demanding you still want sex.
I wonder how many of the brexiteers actually believe that the say, £40 billion, is the end of the matter. ? that no more will be payable

this has barely been mentioned , but the EU are not going to grant access to their markets , to their security systems, to their research facilities, to their ecological systems, to their universities swapping schemes, to their aeroplane systems etc etc for no cost

there will be large sums to be paid

its more like divorcing your wife, giving her £40 billions and then demanding you still want sex, which she will gladly grant, you but you will have to pay large sums for the pleasure, then for cleaning the sheets, and the rental of the room, but only if you use EU approved devices, then she might give you some nasty germs she has caught from others who have shared in her delights. this will happen year after year after year after year, till eventually we ask her if we can get married again as it will work out cheaper, and she tells us no we were very good anyway

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 08 Dec 2017, 20:52

trevormans wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 20:45
DoubleRay wrote:
08 Dec 2017, 19:10
It's like divorcing your wife and giving her £40billion and then demanding you still want sex.
I wonder how many of the brexiteers actually believe that the say, £40 billion, is the end of the matter. ? that no more will be payable

this has barely been mentioned , but the EU are not going to grant access to their markets , to their security systems, to their research facilities, to their ecological systems, to their universities swapping schemes, to their aeroplane systems etc etc for no cost

there will be large sums to be paid

its more like divorcing your wife, giving her £40 billions and then demanding you still want sex, which she will gladly grant, you but you will have to pay large sums for the pleasure, then for cleaning the sheets, and the rental of the room, but only if you use EU approved devices, then she might give you some nasty germs she has caught from others who have shared in her delights. this will happen year after year after year after year, till eventually we ask her if we can get married again as it will work out cheaper, and she tells us no we were very good anyway
or we just get a divorce, but work together for the family
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Re: brexit

Post by trevormans » 08 Dec 2017, 21:15

If I got divorced and paid her £40 billions and still wanted sex then it would not be her that gets cuddled (alternative word needed) but me

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Re: brexit

Post by White G » 11 Dec 2017, 20:54

So many facts tell us that this Government are the most shambolic in generations, but thanks to media spin it seems that many types don't seem to absorb this. There seems to be a few Tories on here, please tell me why they are your choice to run the country. Serious question, I'm looking for positive reasons!

The whole Brexit fiasco has been an embarrassment, most people seem to now realise that there will be more negatives than positives in leaving. Despite this, the right-wingers would rather see us starve than have to work together with ouregards neighbours.

The Irish border issue is an absolute shambles. Regardless of how it works out, there will be consequences across Ireland, Scotland and the rest of the UK.

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 11 Dec 2017, 21:01

White G wrote:
11 Dec 2017, 20:54
So many facts tell us that this Government are the most shambolic in generations, but thanks to media spin it seems that many types don't seem to absorb this. There seems to be a few Tories on here, please tell me why they are your choice to run the country. Serious question, I'm looking for positive reasons!

The whole Brexit fiasco has been an embarrassment, most people seem to now realise that there will be more negatives than positives in leaving. Despite this, the right-wingers would rather see us starve than have to work together with ouregards neighbours.

The Irish border issue is an absolute shambles. Regardless of how it works out, there will be consequences across Ireland, Scotland and the rest of the UK.
I am a caring capitalist

my view is when the tide goes up, everybodys boats go up, when the tide goes down, they all go down together

I am not happy with the tory party at present, and all my friends tell me I am closer to being a socialist than a tory

however, I do not see the future that labour is painting is the way forward, simply as I do not believe we can afford it

let me assure you I have written to my MP on several occasions, awaiting her latest reply

I have told her we are not returning to Victorian times, but medieval times, where the privileged have big walls around there estates

for the life of me, I can not see why there is not a mid way that meets the asperations of the masses

The brexit deal is reasonable as we are heading not for a hard brexit

so who do I trust

Jeremy or teressa, then teressa is the least worst

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Re: brexit

Post by White G » 11 Dec 2017, 21:29

So still nothing positive about the Tories? May has a proven track record of calamity after calamity, yet you'd still rather see her sink us into the abyss? It seems you prefer Corbyn's but think it'll never work. Most them have worked before though and continue to work successfully in successful, developed countries all over the world. Is it because we can't afford them? The Tories have massively increased our debt, despite all the cuts, which have destroyed many lives. Wages are down more than any other developed country, poverty has shot up, working conditions have got worse, billionaire companies continue to be allowed to avoid paying taxes, the divide in society is greater than ever, homeless numbers up, etc etc. If anything, we can't afford to keep the Tories in power.

Can a Tory please tell me what part Corbyn's policies are unaffordable? We spend billions on wars & nuclear weapons, but suggesting that we re-nationalise the railways and you get called a communist from the 70s. So would you rather keep pumping billions into rail franchise subsidies to Richard Branson, a guy who fleeces the system, pays no tax, sues the NHS for losing private contracts, and supports the Tories of course!?

It's a tragedy that so many people bury their head in the sand, hide from the facts, and stand by to let this country become more & more divided. Corbyn isn't perfect but I'd rather someone who wins peace prizes than someone who grovels to the DUP & is so incompetent that entire groups of staff are walking out on her leadership in disgust.

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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 11 Dec 2017, 21:34

White G wrote:
11 Dec 2017, 21:29
So still nothing positive about the Tories? May has a proven track record of calamity after calamity, yet you'd still rather see her sink us into the abyss? It seems you prefer Corbyn's but think it'll never work. Most them have worked before though and continue to work successfully in successful, developed countries all over the world. Is it because we can't afford them? The Tories have massively increased our debt, despite all the cuts, which have destroyed many lives. Wages are down more than any other developed country, poverty has shot up, working conditions have got worse, billionaire companies continue to be allowed to avoid paying taxes, the divide in society is greater than ever, homeless numbers up, etc etc. If anything, we can't afford to keep the Tories in power.

Can a Tory please tell me what part Corbyn's policies are unaffordable? We spend billions on wars & nuclear weapons, but suggesting that we re-nationalise the railways and you get called a communist from the 70s. So would you rather keep pumping billions into rail franchise subsidies to Richard Branson, a guy who fleeces the system, pays no tax, sues the NHS for losing private contracts, and supports the Tories of course!?

It's a tragedy that so many people bury their head in the sand, hide from the facts, and stand by to let this country become more & more divided. Corbyn isn't perfect but I'd rather someone who wins peace prizes than someone who grovels to the DUP & is so incompetent that entire groups of staff are walking out on her leadership in disgust.
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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 11 Dec 2017, 21:35

Please tell me, and help me out, which of Corbyns policies are affordable
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Re: brexit

Post by stuie » 11 Dec 2017, 21:39

stuie wrote:
11 Dec 2017, 21:35
Please tell me, and help me out, which of Corbyns policies are affordable
perhaps worded this wrong, give me some good reasons which would make me vote for labour (which by the way I have in the past)
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Re: brexit

Post by bristleposh » 11 Dec 2017, 21:41

The positive about the Tories is simple, while they're in charge we don't have a Labour led shambles. Is that clear enough Mr White.
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