Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 29 May 2017, 09:24

trevormans wrote:at least she is consistent

wibbly wobbly at every point. no ifs and no buts

the dementia tax, school dinners, floppiness over manchester, the first manifesto ever to fall apart before an election, its only trumped by Trumps lack of strong stability, no clarity on what we hope for on brexit. don't let facts get in the way, utterly reliant on dog whistle

Rudd can't be specific about anything
hammond is sidelined
johnson is an inept twerp
even the dead cat specialist Fallon gets it wrong but can't apologise for out twerping johnson

leadsom, liam fox , greening, hunt , and the apparently imbecilic truss et al are all kept out if the way in case they say anything

if she can't see off a campaign led by mr corbyn what chance do we have when she is facing europe


can anybody point to where she is strong and stable? (not in relative terms but in absolute terms)
I raise you one Dianne Abbott, end of argument I think.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 29 May 2017, 09:55

no sir , the dog whistle is working again

I asked that it be done in absolute terms; not relative to the competition (or lack of it!)

can anybody point to where she is strong and stable?

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Post by bristleposh » 29 May 2017, 09:59

trevormans wrote:no sir , the dog whistle is working again

I asked that it be done in absolute terms; not relative to the competition (or lack of it!)

can anybody point to where she is strong and stable?
No, we've been through this before, she is not but it will not stop people voting for the party who despite your misgivings are streets ahead of any of the opposition
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 29 May 2017, 10:13

yes I agree, that like you, the masses will put aside active thought and will follow the dog whistle and that saint theresa will win the election. I have never thought it would be otherwise. Labour have yet to grasp the power of social media, or indeed the power of having a credible leader or the illusion of a credible economic plan.

she will then claim a mandate for a hard brexit , for austerity, for removal of school dinners, for fleecing pensioners, for including students in immigration figures, for grammar schools, for fox hunting , for benefitting the south east to the detriment of almost everybody else , but will not discuss anything because her arguments are either non-existent or just plain weak and floppy.

can anybody point to where she is strong and stable?

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Post by bristleposh » 29 May 2017, 10:18

I think that if she wins with a reduced majority, especially against Tweedledee and dumber, someone will challenge her for the leadership. For me that leader should be Henning Wehn
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Post by tonyp » 29 May 2017, 10:31

trevormans wrote:yes I agree, that like you, the masses will put aside active thought and will follow the dog whistle and that saint theresa will win the election. I have never thought it would be otherwise. Labour have yet to grasp the power of social media, or indeed the power of having a credible leader or the illusion of a credible economic plan.

she will then claim a mandate for a hard brexit , for austerity, for removal of school dinners, for fleecing pensioners, for including students in immigration figures, for grammar schools, for fox hunting , for benefitting the south east to the detriment of almost everybody else , but will not discuss anything because her arguments are either non-existent or just plain weak and floppy.

can anybody point to where she is strong and stable?
How about you point to where she is weak and unstable (not in relative terms but in absolute terms)?
If she achieves all of the things you refer to above then she might be considered strong even if not stable. I wouldn't know. All I know is that our current PM is both strong and stable.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 29 May 2017, 11:34

i thought I had done that an hour ago, apologies

i will repeat
"wibbly wobbly at every point. no ifs and no buts

the dementia tax, school dinners, floppiness over manchester, the first manifesto ever to fall apart before an election, its only trumped by Trumps lack of strong stability, no clarity on what we hope for on brexit. don't let facts get in the way, utterly reliant on dog whistle"

but if that is not enough, then....

no reduction in immigration over 7 years (no ifs and no buts) , wibbly over the referendum vote, wobbly over no election then unstably changing her mind, Uturns over budget, reintroducing grammar schools, without a mandate, massive failing on NHS and care sytem, lack of a proper plan fo housing, not a clue as to how to define " a good deal for brexit" ,under funding of schools, scared to debate on tv, these are all major events, it is weak and wobbly. if you do not see that then we will need to agree to differ ,

if that is seen by anyone as strong and stable , in any terms whatsoever, then it shows people are not looking or listening, merely following the dog whistle with closed minds
The daily express (owned by a on taxpayer ) is today even claiming that corbyn will wreck the romance in your life. dogwhistle, dogwhistle. do not bother thinking... just listen to the round objects from the right wing press and lynton crosby.

if they are panicking now because they are not miles ahead in the polls against a party without proper cohesion, then it shows that they are not strong and stable

nobody has yet pointed out where she is strong and stable

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 29 May 2017, 12:45

Er, because there isn't any, she'll be out as soon as the election is over, my knowledge of the current contenders is not great, but Ledsome was my favourite before the last vote, apart from Boris Marmite there doesn't seem to be any men up for the task.
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Post by stuie » 29 May 2017, 14:29

Theresa May leading the Conservatives as the Government, after this election (IMO) offers a stronger and stable government, than any other party, its all about perspective.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by DaveLister » 29 May 2017, 14:56

trevormans wrote:
no reduction in immigration over 7 years (no ifs and no buts) , wibbly over the referendum vote, wobbly over no election then unstably changing her mind, Uturns over budget, reintroducing grammar schools, without a mandate, massive failing on NHS and care sytem, lack of a proper plan fo housing, not a clue as to how to define " a good deal for brexit" ,under funding of schools, scared to debate on tv, these are all major events, it is weak and wobbly. if you do not see that then we will need to agree to differ ,
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All of the above is 100% true.

However, add uncontrolled immigration and a wildly uncontrolled economy, and you've got Corbyns Labour.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by DaveLister » 29 May 2017, 14:59

stuie wrote:Theresa May leading the Conservatives as the Government, after this election (IMO) offers a stronger and stable government, than any other party, its all about perspective.
Only because the other parties are an hilarious alternative.
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 29 May 2017, 15:13

nobody has yet pointed out where she is strong and stable. I truly believe there is not one aspect of her government that has been worthy of praise.

its all dog whistle stuff and too many of the non thinkers lap it up as if strong and stable is true.

I do believe , as I have said before, we have a choice between the uncompetent or the uncredible. Neither of which should cheer us up, especially as she has been so clueless to date. But would it not be nice to vote for the tories (or as saint theresa says " me and my team") because you believe in them and their values rather than because the other lot are krap., and I concur with the general sentiment that corbyn is probably uncredible as PM

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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by bristleposh » 29 May 2017, 15:43

trevormans wrote:nobody has yet pointed out where she is strong and stable. I truly believe there is not one aspect of her government that has been worthy of praise.

its all dog whistle stuff and too many of the non thinkers lap it up as if strong and stable is true.

I do believe , as I have said before, we have a choice between the uncompetent or the uncredible. Neither of which should cheer us up, especially as she has been so clueless to date. But would it not be nice to vote for the tories (or as saint theresa says " me and my team") because you believe in them and their values rather than because the other lot are krap., and I concur with the general sentiment that corbyn is probably uncredible as PM
Continuing to repeat what you have said endlessly does not make it any more creditable, perhaps you could add a casino to your signature
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Post by stuie » 29 May 2017, 16:14

trevormans wrote:nobody has yet pointed out where she is strong and stable. I truly believe there is not one aspect of her government that has been worthy of praise
Lets be honest, She has only been Leader for 5 minutes.

We need to be cognisant of the past, but surely you can only vote on who will be the best leader and government moving forward

I actually like the way Theresa is steering her party further to the left, it would have been so easy to go right
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Re: Theresa May to make statement in Downing Street

Post by trevormans » 29 May 2017, 16:53

You are correct.
When Mrs Theresa says she is strong and stable endlessly, it does not make it any more creditable or indeed credible. But she knows it works as a dog whistle and so many lap it up.

Lets be honest she has been leader for ten months, and home secretary for 6 years prior to that. I can think of nothing that she has achieved, although she has reduced the police by around 20,000 and when there has been a problem she has been referred to as "submarine " because she has been nowhere to be seen

For the past 7 years we have had uncontrolled immigration and a wildly uncontrolled economy. But the dog whistle was "long term economic Plan"

I have no understanding of the casino reference

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