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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by bristleposh » 08 Jul 2018, 08:08

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I didn't give England much chance of performing at this world cup, but they've defied a lot of expectations. Columbia and Sweden are no mugs, but England beat both deservedly. Any team good enough to reach the semis can win it, although you've got to wonder what Gareth Southgate is doing that his more illustrious predecessors didn't.
I still have nagging doubts, but I did have a bet on England at 18/1 pre tournament, I won’t win much because the bottle went before the Columbia game. I now win about £30 if they win and £40 if they don’t. Obviously I’d prefer to be £10 worse off. Having watched most of the Russia/Croatia game I see no reason why if we play the way we have been (not worrying about losing) we can get to the final. The only time we tried to not lose was when Southgate took off the injured Alli and replaced him with a defensive midfielder instead of Rashford or Delph. We got through that one courtesy of penalties, I just hope they don’t try and not lose in the, possibly, next two games. It would be what those managers in the past would have done. If we try and negate Modric, Hazard, Mbappe, Pogba, or De Bruyne, we will not succeed. We need to let them worry about us.
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by daib0 » 08 Jul 2018, 09:29

DaveLister wrote:
08 Jul 2018, 00:39
I didn't give England much chance of performing at this world cup, but they've defied a lot of expectations. Columbia and Sweden are no mugs, but England beat both deservedly. Any team good enough to reach the semis can win it, although you've got to wonder what Gareth Southgate is doing that his more illustrious predecessors didn't.
Man management, I'd say...
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by Poshay » 10 Jul 2018, 08:47

Four teams representing European countries in the semis. Is this the first time teams from other continents haven't been so far? :question:
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by daib0 » 10 Jul 2018, 09:44

Poshay wrote:
10 Jul 2018, 08:47
Four teams representing European countries in the semis. Is this the first time teams from other continents haven't been so far? :question:
Nope:

In 2006:
1st to 4th in order- Italy // France // Germany // Portugal

In 1982:
Italy // Germany (West) // Poland // France

In 1966:
England // Germany (West) // Portugal // Soviet Union

In 1934:
Italy // Czechoslovakia // Germany // Austria

:D :D
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by Poshay » 10 Jul 2018, 10:49

Many thanks daibo : my memory aint what it used to be.
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by daib0 » 10 Jul 2018, 21:47

France 1 Belgium 0
Belgium seemed to me a bit nervous tonight, thought they tried to make the final pass too soon, too many times...
but think we could out-do France better also - so I'm not complaining!
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by bristleposh » 10 Jul 2018, 22:16

daib0 wrote:
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France 1 Belgium 0
Belgium seemed to me a bit nervous tonight, thought they tried to make the final pass too soon, too many times...
but think we could out-do France better also - so I'm not complaining!
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by bristleposh » 11 Jul 2018, 07:36

Difficult for me to comprehend, but..at the time of the 1966 World Cup Sir Alf Ramsey was two years younger than Gareth Southgate is now.
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by bristleposh » 11 Jul 2018, 08:43

bristleposh wrote:
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Difficult for me to comprehend, but..at the time of the 1966 World Cup Sir Alf Ramsey was two years younger than Gareth Southgate is now.

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As my good wife has pointed out I was only 18 back then and everyone looked old, Bobby, Jack and Nobby all looked ancient to me. She has no doubt that today's teenagers look at Gareth Southgate and see an old man.
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Re: World Cup 2018

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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by Brianposh » 11 Jul 2018, 16:24

bristleposh wrote:
11 Jul 2018, 08:43
bristleposh wrote:
11 Jul 2018, 07:36
Difficult for me to comprehend, but..at the time of the 1966 World Cup Sir Alf Ramsey was two years younger than Gareth Southgate is now.

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As my good wife has pointed out I was only 18 back then and everyone looked old, Bobby, Jack and Nobby all looked ancient to me. She has no doubt that today's teenagers look at Gareth Southgate and see an old man.
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by daib0 » 11 Jul 2018, 21:58

Game of two halves, and extra time England just too tired ... Croatia just about deserved it
but don't particularly like Croatia though - find them nigglying and annoyingly cunning, playing to the 'foul threshold' so many times to thwart oponents
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by Poshay » 11 Jul 2018, 22:09

Croatia even shaded the first half according to the stats shown on ITV although the commentator was saying that England were on top. In the end it was men against boys. England never turned up in the second half and it was no surprise when the Croats went and equalised and eventually scored the winner in extra time. Not bad for a team of ethnic Serbo Croats for a country with a population less than a tenth of England.
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by daib0 » 11 Jul 2018, 22:11

one qualm with England all WC were the throw-ins ... we never moved players into space, no-one ran - so became predictable. We hardly ever gained space from throw-ins!
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Re: World Cup 2018

Post by bristleposh » 11 Jul 2018, 22:12

As much as I'm disappointed, the better side won, hopefully they'll beat the Froggies
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