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Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby daib0 » 01 May 2017, 20:44

The Guardian


Goalline technology given early Championship debut in play-offs

• System to become permanent Championship fixture in 2017-18 season
• Premier League has been using the technology since 2013


The Championship play-off semi-finals in May will feature goalline technology before it becomes a fixture next season.

Originally scheduled for approval at June’s English Football League annual general meeting, the use of the technology was confirmed at an extraordinary general meeting last week in order to give clubs more time to install the necessary infrastructure.

The earlier-than-expected start has enabled the League to confirm that the four play-off semi-final matches, played between 13 and 17 May, will also have the system in place.

The technology has been used in the Premier League since 2013, as well as in some League Cup ties and the EFL play-off finals at Wembley.

Shaun Harvey, the EFL chief executive, said: “The introduction of goalline technology is a significant step forward for Championship clubs and reflects the importance of the outcome of every single game in the division. Goalline technology has proved to be popular and effective in the Premier League as well as other mainstream sports. I am sure it will also become a welcome and useful addition to our broadcast coverage.”



Will this favour any particular team, and are you in favour of it?
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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby tonyp » 01 May 2017, 22:10

I'm in favour of it. I can't see how it can favour any particular team.
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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby bristleposh » 02 May 2017, 07:56

I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should ge brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.
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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby tonyp » 02 May 2017, 09:10

bristleposh wrote:I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should ge brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.

Blimey bristle. I'm agreeing only with goalline technology. I'm not sure we should or would see all of the things you're mentioning.
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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby bristleposh » 02 May 2017, 09:43

tonyp wrote:
bristleposh wrote:I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should ge brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.

Blimey bristle. I'm agreeing only with goalline technology. I'm not sure we should or would see all of the things you're mentioning.

I am just saying I think we should
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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby DaveLister » 03 May 2017, 17:42

bristleposh wrote:I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should ge brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.


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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby Wycliffe » 06 May 2017, 07:52

bristleposh wrote:I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should be brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.


Of course I agree in principle but I can see why the authorities (always slow to be innovative) are prevaricating about technology.
To take it to the extreme.
Foul throws are prevalent in modern football. If it is shown that a goal resulted from a foul throw in earlier in the move do we cancel the goal? How far back do we go? The above example opens up a few options.
The lino gave offside, if it was wrong do we now 'investigate' every single offside decision?
Was the keeper's foul violent conduct? If so he can be sent off despite the game being 'dead'. Do we then review that on its own regardless?

The goal line technology has taken gawd knows how long so I reckon you and I will be well gone before the authorities get their act in order in the PL/EFL.

I like the way EUFA have tried it in friendly internationals but the rules have to be 100% sorted and agreed.
Sadly i can see an owner going to court with evidence of what should and shouldn't have been given.
When all said and done it is down to the referee whether he requests the footage or not and in the case of rugby (both codes) the officials seem to depend on it the vast majority of times.

Interesting that the sin bin is going to be trialled albeit in incredibly low leagues, I mean Sunday morning standard when half the time a ref doesn't turn up never mind having linesmen to keep an eye on the 'sent off' player(s)

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Re: Goalline technology in Championship Play-offs

Postby bristleposh » 06 May 2017, 08:47

Wycliffe wrote:
bristleposh wrote:I agree with Tony, the sooner full technologies guy is introduced the better, the game as we keep being told is quicker than ever, it is a nonsense that referees are not given the same technological advantages given to their counterparts in Tennis, Cricket, both codes of Rugby and most notably in American Football. OK it would make a game longer, so make it 80 minutes instead of 90. Problem solved, at least we wouldn't have perfectly good goals ruled out incorrectly, penalties would not be given for dives, ever, as for offside decisions, that rule would be changed and every move played to an end, if it is discovered later the player was offside then the play should be brought back to the place where the offence had taken back. There was a case at the weekend where an offside was given against Crystal Palace and the player was then rugby tackled by the keeper outside the area, as it was the offside was given, wrongly, whereas there should have been a free kick to Palace on the edge of the area and the keeper sent off.


Of course I agree in principle but I can see why the authorities (always slow to be innovative) are prevaricating about technology.
To take it to the extreme.
Foul throws are prevalent in modern football. If it is shown that a goal resulted from a foul throw in earlier in the move do we cancel the goal? How far back do we go? The above example opens up a few options.
The lino gave offside, if it was wrong do we now 'investigate' every single offside decision?
only if it's necessary
Was the keeper's foul violent conduct? If so he can be sent off despite the game being 'dead'. Do we then review that on its own regardless?
no, if the ball is dead the ball is dead
The goal line technology has taken gawd knows how long so I reckon you and I will be well gone before the authorities get their act in order in the PL/EFL.
i certainly will, hopefully for the good of the game, before you do the bucket kicking thing

I like the way EUFA have tried it in friendly internationals but the rules have to be 100% sorted and agreed.
Sadly i can see an owner going to court with evidence of what should and shouldn't have been given.
When all said and done it is down to the referee whether he requests the footage or not and in the case of rugby (both codes) the officials seem to depend on it the vast majority of times.
as long as the end result is correct
Interesting that the sin bin is going to be trialled albeit in incredibly low leagues, I mean Sunday morning standard when half the time a ref doesn't turn up never mind having linesmen to keep an eye on the 'sent off' player(s)
i hadn't seen that

on the final point, that is something that desperately needs to be introduced, some players getting sent off for over celebrating, whilst compared to others for attempted murder only getting a yellow.
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