10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by ashman » 10 Aug 2019, 20:19

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10 Aug 2019, 18:07
How! When you are losing at home and doing so much wrong do you only make one change, then when losing away with obvious flaws you make no change.
We had lost the first game of a new season at home; how you can say we were 'losing at home' after one game is ridiculous.
When losing away today, Ferguson made two substitutions at half time and another on 70 minutes. The second half was a greatly improved display with Blake-Tracey showing Butler how to play in the left back position and Knight filling in in the midfield enabling George Boyd to play just behind Toney. Woodyard, who had worked his socks off was finally replaced by Reed in the final substitution. I just hope that Mo Eisa doesn't turn out to be another million pound 'let down.'
Today we forgot about playing 'Where's Wally' and started a game called 'Where's Eisa!' :roll:
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by Gaz_Miller » 10 Aug 2019, 22:43

Get rid before it’s too late.

The bloke is clueless
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by tonyp » 10 Aug 2019, 23:05

Gaz_Miller wrote:
10 Aug 2019, 22:43
Get rid before it’s too late.

The bloke is clueless
Come off it Gaz.
He has a contract and he should be given time to prove it was a good decision to give him a go.
We are all disappointed to have seen the first two games lost but we don't need to jump off the Story Bridge.
(Well, you can jump off if you like).
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by Gaz_Miller » 10 Aug 2019, 23:58

tonyp wrote:
10 Aug 2019, 23:05
Come off it Gaz.
He has a contract and he should be given time to prove it was a good decision to give him a go.
We are all disappointed to have seen the first two games lost but we don't need to jump off the Story Bridge.
(Well, you can jump off if you like).
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Evans had a contract & got us off to a flyer. Therefore he should have been given more time.

Fergie was useless last time and the sooner people wake up the better.

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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by trevormans » 11 Aug 2019, 08:23

I blame boris Johnson

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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by bristleposh » 11 Aug 2019, 08:43

ashman wrote:
10 Aug 2019, 20:19
bristleposh wrote:
10 Aug 2019, 18:07
How! When you are losing at home and doing so much wrong do you only make one change, then when losing away with obvious flaws you make no change.
We had lost the first game of a new season at home; how you can say we were 'losing at home' after one game is ridiculous.
When losing away today, Ferguson made two substitutions at half time and another on 70 minutes. The second half was a greatly improved display with Blake-Tracey showing Butler how to play in the left back position and Knight filling in in the midfield enabling George Boyd to play just behind Toney. Woodyard, who had worked his socks off was finally replaced by Reed in the final substitution. I just hope that Mo Eisa doesn't turn out to be another million pound 'let down.'
Today we forgot about playing 'Where's Wally' and started a game called 'Where's Eisa!' :roll:
I was unable to watch the second half of the match due to a family issue, I had got my news from flash scores and it looked as though no substitutions were made, for that I apologise. As for the first part I was referring to the substitutions in the first match, not the change that was made for the second
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by bristleposh » 11 Aug 2019, 08:44

trevormans wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 08:23
I blame boris Johnson
....and the brexiteers
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by tonyp » 11 Aug 2019, 08:59

bristleposh wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 08:44
trevormans wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 08:23
I blame boris Johnson
....and the brexiteers
Nobody has blamed DMac yet. Not even Gaz.
And yet Gaz and others have said thatDMac makes all of the decisions.
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by Gaz_Miller » 11 Aug 2019, 11:13

tonyp wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 08:59

Nobody has blamed DMac yet. Not even Gaz.
And yet Gaz and others have said thatDMac makes all of the decisions.
Of course I blame DMac for employing Ferguson again. It showed a real lack of knowledge on his behalf & also an admission that he can’t work with anybody else.

It’s such a shame because everything else seems to be falling into place. Rich co-owners, buying the ground back and plans to eventually make the Premier League.

But at the moment, we’re trying to rebuild a Rolls Royce by putting a Skoda engine in it.
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by Gaz_Miller » 11 Aug 2019, 17:48

Gobsmacked that nobody really seems to care.

I said after Fleetwood that we could easily go through August without a win which would almost put an end to automatic promotion.

The manager doesn’t know his best team or formation. Has he signed a load of duds?

If it was Evans people would be going ballistic.
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by DaveLister » 11 Aug 2019, 20:55

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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by Gaz_Miller » 11 Aug 2019, 21:02

Great football debate.

Well done
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by bristleposh » 11 Aug 2019, 22:10

Gaz_Miller wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 21:02
Great football debate.

Well done
There is never a debate where you're concerned, if it doesn't fit your anti-Fergusson pro-Evans agenda there is no argument. I don't expect the way we are playing that we will get much before the end of August, but I hope I'll be proven wrong. It is not the manager's fault if he selects a side that should be perfectly capable of winning games to go on the pitch and not give 100% . In the two games (I've watched 1.5 of on iFollow) the defence has given away pointless free kicks in dangerous areas, a manager can not be blamed for players stupidity.
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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by JohnC » 11 Aug 2019, 23:06

The notion that a manager should not be held accountable for the on-field performance (stupid or otherwise) of his players is an interesting one.
Giving away three avoidable goals doesn't preclude the team challenging for a draw or a 4-3 victory.

As was intimated earlier in the thread, After Fleetwood scored their third, the manager declined to make use of the two substitution options available to him. On the bench was Kanu, a striker, we are told. On the field was Eisa, a striker whose contribution had been negligible up to that point. Replacing Eisa with Kanu would have sent a message to both players -- and also to the fans. Kanu must have concluded that if he's not going to be introduced to try to help overturn a two-goal deficit in the last ten minutes of a game, then his presence on the bench is solely for 'injury insurance'.

Oxford, I am informed, struck the frame of the goal twice and also missed a sitter. We nearly shipped three goals two games in a row.

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Re: 10/08/2019 V Oxford (away)

Post by tonyp » 12 Aug 2019, 02:36

Gaz_Miller wrote:
11 Aug 2019, 17:48
Gobsmacked that nobody really seems to care.
You get gobsmacked easily, Gaz.
Everybody cares. We would all be happier had we won two games instead of losing two.
It's fair enough for some of those who watched both games to have different opinions to others.
Some will blame the manager, some will say we're not good enough.
But it really is too early to start talking about getting rid of players or the manager.
Things will improve. We are not going to end the season in 21st position and Blackpool are not going to finish 1st.
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